LD On The DL: Who Do Internships Benefit?
LD On The DL: Who Do Internships Benefit?
Before Fashion Week we bid on a job. Ryan and I gathered the necessary materials and sent out the bid. A day later we got an angry phone call from the potential client. The conversation went something like this:
“This price is ridiculous. What’s wrong with you people?”
“Well, we think it’s fair. You’re asking for a lot to be done in an incredibly short amount of time which, as we discussed, requires more people and makes labor costs much higher.”
“You pay your people?”
“Our background is in freelance, and we believe strongly in paying people living wages. We can’t ask people to work for free.”
“But I’m [a moderately well known fashion designer] and was [X]th place on [a mildly popular fashion TV show]! I don’t have a problem getting interns! I’ll have my people do it for free.”
“Interns aren’t qualified to do this work.” Long, awkward pause.
“Never mind. I’ll hire a different company.” Click.
I then began noticing the glut of unpaid staff on fashion job sites and I began to wonder, who exactly benefits from all this free labor? Is it the intern, the employer, both, or neither?
Does the intern benefit by providing his or her services for free? There is one big question to ask: Is working for free today an investment which will deliver returns tomorrow? There’s no data to suggest or predict what the amount of uncompensated time invested today will yield in dollars tomorrow. Instead, immediate compensation takes the form of “contacts,” or, “experience,” none of which pay the rent but do alleviate the employer’s expectation to provide some type of compensation. Anecdotally, many interns believe working for free is a great career stepping stone, however I think serious research is lacking to verify this commonly held belief. I would like to see data that delineates quantitatively what this intern’s investment payout is likely to be. Only then can we say with absolute certainty that contacts and experience have any actual worth, beyond comforting employers.
On the other hand, is the employer benefitting? Basic economics of supply and demand are clearly in play. With such a huge amount of cheap supply, a lot of people willing to work for free, demand stays pretty low. Thus, rates stay pretty low. Free labor drives down the price of paid labor. That benefits companies, and not interns once they decide to become part of the paid labor force.
Furthermore, mounting evidence suggests companies are over hiring interns. Maybe the bad economy is to blame, but it’s hard to imagine an economic climate where businesses would shun free labor. The New York Times published an interesting article (click here) about some common abuses, which seem to provide the intern with neither contacts or valuable experience. They do, however, provide the employer with cheap, abusable labor for a fraction the cost … or none of it.
Ultimately, I do not think it’s a total win for employers. Interns are not necessarily qualified labor, and need constant supervision and re-training due to the high turnover rate. However, free labor is still a pretty sweet deal for the bottom line.
Is it possible for both interns and employer to benefit from each other? Surely there must be altruistic companies who do feel it’s important to educate the next generation. But without controls or regulation how is one to separate the good from the bad? I’d like to offer two test questions for all those considering unpaid internships.
Question One: how much is the designer, organization, theater, or company investing in you, the intern? Are they providing housing, per diem pay, transportation, or some living expenses? If so, what is that amount in dollars? If the answer is zero and you’re getting paid in contacts and experience, or just experience, take a hard look at the internship and approach it skeptically.
Question Two: if the designer, organization, theater, or company had to pay their interns a living wage, would they be an economically viable entity? If the answer is no be careful you’re not signing up for mind numbing grunt work they can’t afford to pay anyone else to do.
Perhaps nobody benefits from internships, not intern or company. If the two test questions listed above are both “no,” I think a lose-lose dynamic can easily be created. The intern who pays for everything ends up investing actual dollars and uncompensated time (a double whammy) today for access to contacts and experience, which may (or may not) lead to money tomorrow. Furthermore, the intern is working at an deluded organization that isn’t even economically viable, which begs the question how can the intern find paid work if his or her employer can’t either?
I think the reasoning behind internships is steeped in the American ethos of “Work hard and you will achieve,” right after a line about, “…paying your dues.” The romantic notion can easily be abused. The idea of being in close proximity to [your craft here] eventually leading to paid work may be ubiquitous, but is certainly far from conclusive. Safeguards, intelligent questions, and a skeptical attitude may go a lot further in the long term than contacts and experience.






April 13th, 2010 at 12:20 am
Think about the small company, the startup, the self-funded-economy-supporting companies. They are the ones who often have the best learning opportunities, willingness to put interns on more then grunt work, it’s the small company that often take on ‘free’ projects (often non-profit) just to get the shot at a client and yet they are the ones that rarely can find willing “free” interns. It’s the large companies that I see really taking advantage here and free interns are lined up at their doors. It’s hurting the small businesses that need a break in labor in order to get to that next level and hire. Please don’t say all internships are bad. Do encourage students to gain industry experience with internships at smaller companies (yes! Smaller) rather then the big boys who don’t need any more breaks to crush the little guy… Give small companies a chance!
April 13th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
I would like to add my own input to this topic, and I feel I have the right to because I am in the “Intern” faze of my life. My goal is to eventually become a lighting designer for both Broadway and Rock-Shows. What I felt should have been added to this topic is “HOW” the Intern is treated, and not someone who should have to take abuse. Take this as an example…
In December 2009 I signed a contract with a Lighting Design Company that my lighting design prof at my College owned. I was so excited that I was going to get hands on experience and and be taught right from wrong in terms of lighting design and did not care I wasn’t getting paid. During my time at the company however which lasted 6 months, I was treated horribly. Everything that would go wrong even if it was impossible for it to be my fault was blamed at me. My boss and his personal asst. (Who is the same age as me, 20) would constantly make me feel worthless and I was told numerous times that ” I would get eaten alive in the real world,” and would be called a “slacker.” when I was the one out of all the other interns who put the most work into the company. I tried convincing them that I am here to learn not to be told off. It gotten to the point that I had a nervous breakdown from constantly rolling over and peeing (not literally) and just always taking the blows that were thrown at me that I decided recently that my health and happiness is more important than the experience I could have from working as an intern for this company. I could always find another company that will treat me much better to intern for. So I left ! I have to admit I learned so much and am so great full that I had this opportunity. I feel however I was miss treated tremendously by my employer and his assistant, and have the unsettled feeling that Interns are always treated as dirt. I feel when an Intern is hired they are taking the job for free because of the experience that it holds, basically they are their to learn the trade. With Company owners treating their interns poorly I feel they are not learning what the owner should be teaching and they are not learning how to do the job correctly, I mean the reason they are there in the first place is because they love the trade that they are interning for. I am most likely incorrect to have this thought but I feel more work would get done a lot more efficiently this way, and the world would be a much better place. I have recently decided to transfer Colleges with the fact that the College I am currently taking classes at does not offer a Theatre Technology Program. I am going to transfer to a College that offers this to further my dream to become a great lighting designer.
April 13th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Hey guys,
Working for free when the company or the designer is making money is not fair or should be required or expected. Doing a favor and gaining some experience is part of life.
Gaining experience and knowledge are important. Most schools are a sham and don’t get you into a design or stagehand job. Just ask the 100+ Designers who graduated last year. They just require you to go into debt and waste your resources.
Internships should be involved in an educational setting. Apprentice is learning a trade.
There are designers and jobs who do pay apprentices and interns. See most summer companies, Santa Fe Opera or Williamstown. Maybe not a lot but enough to live on even in NYC. Resourceful people can make most situations work. NEVER let anyone treat you like dirt especially if you are the one doing them the favor. But favors are important and can gain you a foothold in future employment. Have fun and do your best.
Find the in between job until you can make your way and don’t be afraid to get your hands dirty. Most designers I know have also been so many other things in their life.
Variety is the spice of life and job security.
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